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yuubi · Member Joined: 07 Feb 2009 Posts: 9

Okay. I deleted the css and it loads faster now. Thanks

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Jon · Member Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 390 Location: Australia

Thanks for the heads up, gg'ssimon.

What a difference a browser makes!

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The Spyware problem must be a recent development on Ripway. I haven't used Mozilla much since August, and not to access RipWay. Since August I've also installed the latest ZomeAlarm update which I find newly includes a realtime site status check.

Meanwhile I have been using Opera browser which I prefer for a number of reasons, but which ZoneAlarm evidently does not monitor in the same way (I hope they bring out an update for that). I've noticed a few security applications treat Opera less thoroughly because most of the time Opera seems to get bypassed by malware. Opera does respond to threats instead by simply displaying a standard ('cant access') error page without fully explaining why.

So I've eliminated the .css file in our site's Admin as you suggest.

I spent much of the evening trying to reconstruct exactly why we used the .css file in the first place so long ago, and have resolved that it was to render only one graphic 'cell' in the front page index that required a .jpg instead of HTML coding. We can do without that cell and put up with a white blank there ... priorities under the circumstances. Confused

If RipWay remains a problem I'll be looking for another equivalent site. Up until now it has been better than ImageShack for some purposes because it will allow hosting of any file-type and also allow editing in-situ.

Meanwhile I am still encountering slow Page Generation times so there's still a problem somewhere.

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:20 am Post subject:

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Thanks for the heads up, gg'ssimon.

What a difference a browser makes!

You're welcome. Yes, different browsers will see things differently.

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I spent much of the evening trying to reconstruct exactly why we used the .css file in the first place so long ago, and have resolved that it was to render only one graphic 'cell' in the front page index that required a .jpg instead of HTML coding. We can do without that cell and put up with a white blank there ... priorities under the circumstances.

Huh? .jpg is an image file. HTML is an internet language. What exactly was it you wanted to do? Now that we have the bottom html section available to use from within the admin panel to put codes, whatever you wanted to do probably could be done with a snippet of style coding.

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Meanwhile I am still encountering slow Page Generation times so there's still a problem somewhere.

Do what I already said. Remove all offsite scripts. Take out that statcounter. Before you do, click on the counter image. It goes to a page not found with a message:

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Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

You have to remove ALL scripts that call info from another website to try to pinpoint where the problem is. All websites have server problems at one time or another. When you have calls from many different websites to load things on yours, if ONE of those has a problem, it will affect the load time of your site, even if your server is working 100% fine.

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:23 am Post subject:

yuubi wrote:

Okay. I deleted the css and it loads faster now. Thanks

You're welcome.

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Jon · Member Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 390 Location: Australia

gg'ssimon wrote:

Huh? .jpg is an image file. HTML is an internet language. What exactly was it you wanted to do? Now that we have the bottom html section available to use from within the admin panel to put codes, whatever you wanted to do probably could be done with a snippet of style coding.

Yes that's right. But the particular cell that the .css file was meant to treat featured a tonal fade from left to right ... something that a snippet of code alone can not do. It called for an actual image. However, as I recall that became too hard to render through all except one skin we had generated, and eventually we gave up and did in fact settle for HTML Hex color code, giving a plain colored area. Thereafter the string of .css file lingered redundantly in "ForumUp Theme" doing nothing in particular. In short I all but forgot it was there.

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Take out that statcounter.

That's a possibility. It has in the past timed-out to a place-marker. If we were to find another, do you know offhand if those counters can be set to take over at a previous counter's read-out? Confused

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:07 am Post subject:

Jon, you have this strange kind of coding for the stat counter. That doesn't look like it can be the correct code. It is just repeating and repeating the same thing.

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You also still have the ripway css on your site.

Use Firefox to go to your forum. Up at the top menu bar, select "view" and then "page source". On the new page, you will see the source code for your forum. You will see where it still has the Ripway link.

Also, Alice, change your images to be .jpg images, not .png images. .png images are a larger file size. The picture you see will be the same visual size as a .jpg, but a .png is a larger computer file size. Larger computer files take longer to load on a webpage.

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:41 am Post subject:

Jon wrote:

gg'ssimon wrote:

Huh? .jpg is an image file. HTML is an internet language. What exactly was it you wanted to do? Now that we have the bottom html section available to use from within the admin panel to put codes, whatever you wanted to do probably could be done with a snippet of style coding.

Yes that's right. But the particular cell that the .css file was meant to treat featured a tonal fade from left to right ... something that a snippet of code alone can not do. It called for an actual image. However, as I recall that became too hard to render through all except one skin we had generated, and eventually we gave up and did in fact settle for HTML Hex color code, giving a plain colored area. Thereafter the string of .css file lingered redundantly in "ForumUp Theme" doing nothing in particular. In short I all but forgot it was there.

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Take out that statcounter.

That's a possibility. It has in the past timed-out to a place-marker. If we were to find another, do you know offhand if those counters can be set to take over at a previous counter's read-out? Confused

Jon, a "snippet of code" most certainly can have an image included.

Please read our FAQ about adding images to particular cells on the forum page at

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Most statcounters probably allow you to start the counter at any number desired. The one I use on my website does. You must make sure that whatever statcounter you do use is a safe one. There are some that are disguises to add trojans. See our warning list at

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Since I know the statcounter on my website does not make any problems, you might want to use that one. I don't want to make any specific recommendation here on the forum, because then people will think it is an official ForumUp recommendation. But if you go to my website and click on the numbers at the bottom of the page, you will see which statcounter I personally use on my personal website.

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Jon · Member Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 390 Location: Australia

gg'ssimon wrote:

Jon, you have this strange kind of coding for the stat counter. That doesn't look like it can be the correct code. It is just repeating and repeating the same thing.

At first glance it looks that way, but in fact half way along the rows they each differ. Smile

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You also still have the ripway css on your site.

Ooops! Sorry. I DID delete it (so I thought) but I had omitted to use the "Change CSS" button too. Fixed now.

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Bloodymary · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:04 am Post subject:

OMG, all of a sudden things have speeded yp to normal page loading time. I hadn't done a thing yet. Confused

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:06 am Post subject:

Jon wrote:

gg'ssimon wrote:

Jon, you have this strange kind of coding for the stat counter. That doesn't look like it can be the correct code. It is just repeating and repeating the same thing.

At first glance it looks that way, but in fact half way along the rows they each differ. Smile

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You also still have the ripway css on your site.

Ooops! Sorry. I DID delete it (so I thought) but I had omitted to use the "Change CSS" button too. Fixed now.

Why did my IP address get banned from your forum? Hummph. So much for more help from me. Mad

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Bloodymary · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:20 am Post subject:

gg'ssimon wrote:

Jon wrote:

gg'ssimon wrote:

Jon, you have this strange kind of coding for the stat counter. That doesn't look like it can be the correct code. It is just repeating and repeating the same thing.

At first glance it looks that way, but in fact half way along the rows they each differ. Smile

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You also still have the ripway css on your site.

Ooops! Sorry. I DID delete it (so I thought) but I had omitted to use the "Change CSS" button too. Fixed now.

Why did my IP address get banned from your forum? Hummph. So much for more help from me. Mad

Sorry M. I didn't know it was you. If I remember right it started with 214?????????

I f that's it, I'll unban it. We've been getting a lot from some Asian countries and I've been banning them.

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Jon · Member Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 390 Location: Australia

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Why did my IP address get banned from your forum? Hummph. So much for more help from me. Mad

Entirely accidental, gg'ssimon. Neither of us would have done that to you intentionally. As BM explained, she has been busy "repelling boarders" a lot lately. Mistaken identity this time. Confused

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Jon · Member Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 390 Location: Australia

Since deleting that .css file (properly this time Embarassed

) we've had time to pace the site and it has improved dramatically, thanks. RipWay's recent difficulty in processing calls on that file seems to have been core to the problems.

Anyone would think you had done this before, gg'ssimon! Wink

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:47 am Post subject:

Bloodymary wrote:

Sorry M. I didn't know it was you. If I remember right it started with 214?????????

I f that's it, I'll unban it. We've been getting a lot from some Asian countries and I've been banning them.

No, that is not my IP address now. Maybe it used to be, but now it is not that. People's IP addresses change every so often. Some internet providers routinely switchout IP addresses from a range of IP addresses they have. When people get a new modem, the IP address can wind up changing.

Stop banning IP addresses. You have probably wound up IP banning many innocent people. Not everyone one who views your board from IP addresses based in Asia is "bad".

Banning IP addresses won't help much to stop the fake registrants on your forum anyway. Ban user names and email addresses. Anyway, having a few spambots being registered does not mean they can read or write anything in your forum. They don't self activate, so never become activated members.

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Do an email extension ban using their list. For example, *@mail.ru. Do NOT ban gmail!!!! Many innocent people use that. Do not do IP bans, in case you wind up banning an innocent.

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gg'ssimon · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:22 am Post subject:

Jon wrote:

Since deleting that .css file (properly this time Embarassed

) we've had time to pace the site and it has improved dramatically, thanks. RipWay's recent difficulty in processing calls on that file seems to have been core to the problems.

Anyone would think you had done this before, gg'ssimon! Wink

Glad things are working better now. Whenever a website or forum has a problem with slowness, calls to outside websites need to be checked.

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